So a colleague has Virgin cable and was upgraded to 50Mbps, they sent him a new cable modem.
He lives at number 46, Yodel, the delivery company (was DHL) tried to deliver it to number 48...
4 times...
5th time lucky.
Then the Virgin engineers came to set it up, got the wired network working to the desktop but they couldn't get the 3 laptops to connect via wireless.
One of these laptops had built in wireless and the solution was to supply it with a Virgin branded, NetGear USB dongle.
I go around and look at the set-up and basically its a rather snazzy NetGear router which has been bastardised by Virgin.
It doesn't help that the laptops could see the new router but refused to connect to it without using the Virgin Media Wireless Manager.
Also I don't think think that having WPS enabled was helping the situation.
Set the router up to use WPA2 and the 2 old laptops with USB dongles eventually got connected, brill now to do the same on new laptop with built in, but no it wouldn't connect.
Reset the router to automatically use an appropriate WPA and finally the last laptop connects, even if it has automatically chosen WPA instead of WPA2.
By this time I'd had enough and thought, stuff it, it's working now.
I'm 100% convinced that had an off the shelf NetGear router been supplied with easy step by step instructions it would have been set-up in a fraction of the time.
I know that ISP's customise their router with the view of making it "Plug & Play" and lessening the chance of the customer messing things up, but when it doesn't work and their own engineers can't solve it it makes it difficult for everyone else!
For this reason I still use my old faithful NetGear for my internet and refuse to use my O2 Wireless Box as my main router, I do now have my O2 Box as a secondary router because it has USB ports and can use a USB drive/stick as a basic NAS!